Panel: "Niche Masters Who Can Kill You" - Comments
Posted by
AllanW, Rancho Cucamonga on July 1, 2010:
Hmmm... I just noticed the "noframes" gif [Stamp Out Web Site Clutter!] which proudly proclaims: No Frames! No Java!
It's true that this page doesn't use frames, or even iFrames. Technically, it's also true that this page doesn't use java. But most of us consider java and javascript to be almost the same thing, and if you didn't use javascript then we wouldn't see the Google ads, you wouldn't have Google Analytics, we wouldn't have a "Post a Comment" section, etc.
You certainly DO fall into the spirit of "Stamp out web site clutter." The pages are well laid-out, uncluttered, easy to read and navigate. I guess you say "Stamp out web site clutter: no frames, no java" because it's so much more succinct than "We don't have nasty frames that try to show the whole web site in a banner, and we don't use java to create nasty pop-up ads or menus that tend to clutter up your desktop and make it hard to close."
Even better, your pages make sparing use of graphics - just enough to make your page look very professional. The Wall Street Journal front page currently has 39 images, plus probably a few more embedded inside their iFrame - it's almost 2,000,000 bytes to download. Your front page has 4 images and no iFrames; the whole download is only 136,216 bytes, and most of that is cached when you go from one page to the next.
Maybe you should consider changing the banner, so that instead of focusing on the technical aspects (frames/java), it talks about results: "Quick to download! No pop-ups!"
Either way, thank you for keeping your pages so uncluttered.
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First, Java and Javascript are far from the same thing, even if "most" people think they are. And second, this article is twelve years old! I don't think iframes even existed in 1998. The bottom line is page speed, and even then only as it relates to user experience, and I'm glad you agree that I've worked hard to keep that positive. -rc
Panel: "Niche Masters Who Can Kill You" - Comments
Posted by AllanW, Rancho Cucamonga on July 1, 2010:
Hmmm... I just noticed the "noframes" gif [Stamp Out Web Site Clutter!] which proudly proclaims: No Frames! No Java!
It's true that this page doesn't use frames, or even iFrames. Technically, it's also true that this page doesn't use java. But most of us consider java and javascript to be almost the same thing, and if you didn't use javascript then we wouldn't see the Google ads, you wouldn't have Google Analytics, we wouldn't have a "Post a Comment" section, etc.
You certainly DO fall into the spirit of "Stamp out web site clutter." The pages are well laid-out, uncluttered, easy to read and navigate. I guess you say "Stamp out web site clutter: no frames, no java" because it's so much more succinct than "We don't have nasty frames that try to show the whole web site in a banner, and we don't use java to create nasty pop-up ads or menus that tend to clutter up your desktop and make it hard to close."
Even better, your pages make sparing use of graphics - just enough to make your page look very professional. The Wall Street Journal front page currently has 39 images, plus probably a few more embedded inside their iFrame - it's almost 2,000,000 bytes to download. Your front page has 4 images and no iFrames; the whole download is only 136,216 bytes, and most of that is cached when you go from one page to the next.
Maybe you should consider changing the banner, so that instead of focusing on the technical aspects (frames/java), it talks about results: "Quick to download! No pop-ups!"
Either way, thank you for keeping your pages so uncluttered.
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First, Java and Javascript are far from the same thing, even if "most" people think they are. And second, this article is twelve years old! I don't think iframes even existed in 1998. The bottom line is page speed, and even then only as it relates to user experience, and I'm glad you agree that I've worked hard to keep that positive. -rc
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